Hey Blogg Dogg, hows it hanging mofo (someone told me to say that) So I decided as my modem will not work with Vista I should get a router thats compatible, so I poped over to PC World and picked one up, the sales assistance was of a foreign nationality and I could not understand a word he said, How much is it I said, Blah blah blah he said, okie dokie so I took it to the checkout and gave them my card, £100 quid for a router wtf!!, anyway its taken me 2 days to try and open the Nat, I have been on countless web sites, help sites, microsoft, bungie (that was complicated) and also a www.portforwarding.com (thank god I dident have to do all that) and finally this morning as I was about to throw the damn thing into the bin along side the belkin, linkys, netgear and buy yet another one off play, I decide to read the book that came with it (duoh!!) and hey presto like as if a little geanie popped out of my coffe mug, 2 clicks of the mouse and my NAT is now set to open, just had to activate the UnPp, the only trouble is that I am to scared to switch off the router in case, well I dont know, Im a techno noob dang it.. why cant routers come with a button to set the NAT? and why cant I read the book first? I think its a bloke thing..